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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:09:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:Lets forget for a moment the Darwin issue of forgetting to upgrade/renew you medical clone and losing SP.
If free medical clones were provided to all players would this encourage more people to participate in PVP?
Players with over 100 mil SP are sometimes averted to PVP because of the cost of replacement clones at that level. Even lower level players can be drained having to replace countless clones. Without the worry of losing 10x or more the cost of the T1 firgate you are flying I think more players would be more willing to give it a try. At least on a more casual level you could JC into a implantless clone, go on a lo/null sec adventure for the afternoon and not have to worry about losing 75+ mil ISK and potential SP loss. It may just be the determining factor for alot of unsure players who wanted to get their feet wet but were afraid to.
Even most serious PVPers have alts to help augment their income to pay for their fun and also allow them access to hisec. Would it not also be beneficial to them to have one less thing to worry about? Let them concentrate on what they do best, killing.
Just wondering other opinions on this.
No, but it would change what kinds of roams I'd be willing to undertake on my "elder" characters. As it stands, I have alts for null sec roams.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:00:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:Takseen wrote:I have a low SP alt for all my pvp shenanigans, has negligible clone costs Is this the norm for PVPers? Use a cheap low SP alt. Are they any PVPers who use their 100 mil + SP main to do the killing? Or when you get to that point you have others do the killing for you.
I PVP with 100M SP characters pretty frequently....
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:26:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Pewty McPew wrote:Takseen wrote:I have a low SP alt for all my pvp shenanigans, has negligible clone costs Is this the norm for PVPers? Use a cheap low SP alt. Are they any PVPers who use their 100 mil + SP main to do the killing? Or when you get to that point you have others do the killing for you. I PVP with 100M SP characters pretty frequently.... -Liang Where?
Low sec and WH space.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.19 02:18:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Tell me more about low sec bubbles, dictor bbles at gates, bombs etc. I'm curious now.
These are null sec characteristic elements. It's a free choice to play in there or not. One shouldn't if dislike it or cannot deal with the costs. Higher chance to loose a pod is pretty much the only added risk in null in respect of low sec space. Making it cheaper is a further step toward trivialization. And is balanced balanced with the fact that is far more peacefull. If you check the overall stats you see as low sec region/systems are more dangerous (for ships/pods kill): http://evemaps.dotlan.net/stats
You don't seem to understand. It's not "real PVP" in Low Suck and Worthless Holes because they aren't part of the Great Null Sea Of Blues. If you aren't flying as part of an ultra elite 1500-3000 man ~leet pee vee pee~ alliance then nothing you could possibly do is "real PVP". If your "small gangs" aren't fleeting up with at least 200 in fleet then you just don't matter. 
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.19 02:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:What I can't figure out is if you didn't actually understand my point or if you're deliberately being obtuse.
I'm more or less responding to all the "QQ, Low Suck" posts that immediately followed the statement that I regularly PVP with 100m SP characters in low sec and WH space. Yours was amongst them. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: I'm probably not a good personal barometer of this though. As I stated earlier in the thread, I have a series of (lower SP specialized) alts I use for null sec PVP... but on the flip side I never hesitated to take HG Pirate implants into WH space. I'm also semi space rich. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:06:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:What I can't figure out is if you didn't actually understand my point or if you're deliberately being obtuse. I'm more or less responding to all the "QQ, Low Suck" posts that immediately followed the statement that I regularly PVP with 100m SP characters in low sec and WH space. Yours was amongst them. ;-) Yeah, you missed the point. See, null has these things called bubbles. Granted WH space has them too but due to being significantly less populated and having no static entrances and exits they're kind of used less often.
I didn't miss the point. I thought it wasn't worth responding to for the reasons already given. Although I'm glad to see you walking back that hate on WH space.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: I didn't realize that stating facts were hating on low and wormhole space. Are you denying that your clones are at less of a risk?
In WH space? Yes.
-Liang
Ed: In fact, I'd go so far as to say they're at significantly more risk than in null sec. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:46:00 -
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You don't pay attention much. I never said it was a good game mechanic - I was even specific about the ways that I bypass and avoid it. What I said is that I PVP with 100m SP characters (since people seemed to believe that 100M SP characters don't ever PVP). I even PVP with 100m SP characters in places where the clone (and much more importantly - the implants) is at significant risk.
But should clone costs be adjusted? Sure, but I think that once you go that far you may as well just remove the clone system as a whole. Is it absolutely mandatory? No, I don't think so. Is it something that inhibits PVP? Obviously, but I don't believe it's a major factor.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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